there's barbed wire. i thought where am i? i had gone to lebanon. that was never my intention. so i get out of the train, and i don't know how to get back to haifa. i slept through haifa. there are a bunch of kids there from some parachute unit, and i say, "is there anybody here who has anyone who has a car and is going to haifa?" the guy looks at me-- like a 20-year-old parachutist, and he said, "are you from 'radiolab'?" i thought oh, my god. >> rose: he said that? >> yes. >> rose: he recognized the voice. >> yeah, yeah. that's just -- >> rose: that's a smart kid, too. >> well, yeah, but that's a thint that something really interesting is going on in the world. if you're here making noises for the home team, there's a huge leak in your system to everywhere else. >> the borders are really porous right now. your question, what is are are "radiolab" now? who knows? next year it will be something slightly different, i think. > think. >> rose: what do you think the listener, the viewer, is in search of? >> i can only answer that personally. i don't know. i find when i make the sho